| An
interview with Robert A. Schuller & Douglas DiSiena
Rick
Burnett: In the Possibility Living book you talk about
the power that created the body also heals the body. Dr.
Schuller, can you elaborate on this for us?
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: I've been preaching this message
for a long time! God is a powerful God. Trying to measure
the power of God is like..well, you can't even begin to
measure the power of God. The prophet Isaiah said it rhetorically:
"who can measure the waters in the hollow of his hand, who
can weigh the mountains in a scale" - Isaiah 40 goes on
to talk about the power of God - it is just so immense that
we can't even begin to comprehend it. So, once we understand
who God is and how powerful and magnificent He is, we realize
it is God who simply spoke and the earth was formed. He
spoke and the heavens were created. He spoke and everything
we know came into existence. He created you and me. The
bible says on the seventh day He rested. It doesn't say
God quit! It says God rested. That means that on the eighth
day He went back to work. He has continued to create and
sustain and that creative power continues to this day.
Every time we hear a newborn baby cry, or whenever we see
a budding flower, or new life created, we can be reminded
that God is real and He is truly in the creation business!
So, let's put that on one hand and let's put our problems
in the other hand. Let's say we have the most horrific
problem we can think about, such as terminal cancer. The
doctor says your dying. First of all, as I have said before,
the Doctor doesn't really know when you're going to die
- only God knows that. But, let's say the doctor has given
you that diagnosis. Let's put that on one side of the scale
and then let's put the power of God and His word on the
other side of the scale. God's side of the scale says
you can say to your mountains move and they will move; that
scale says "ask and it will be given to you, seek and you
will find, knock and the door will be opened", that scale
says "all things are possible, if you only believe." Is
it possible that the power, which created you, has the power
to heal you. Is it possible that the power that put all
those cells together that continue to replicate to the point
that you came into being - is it possible that power could
eliminate the cancer growth or tumor - regardless of where
it is? I absolutely believe the power that created you
has the power to heal you!
Rick
Burnett: The Chiropractic profession uses the term
innate intelligence. Dr. DiSiena, tell us what this means?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Innate means "wisdom within." It's
the intelligence within. That, in essence, is the wisdom
that God gave us to heal us. That power within us, within
all living things for that matter, just doesn't go away
after we are born. That power continues on the job, as
innate intelligence to heal us, to restore us, and to ultimately
give us our full potential. So, as long as we have this
intelligence within, we can have faith that the God we love
and serve will take care of us.
Rick
Burnett: This innate intelligence, not only do Chiropractors
believe in it, there are medical doctors who believe in
this also, correct?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Yes, correct.
Rick
Burnett: What role does the nervous system play in
health and the cause of disease?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: I love this question because I talk
about this all the time! It's not just the nerve system.
I've seen a lot of cadavers. I've dissected many cadavers.
Guess what - they all have a nervous system. Those people
are not healing or healthy - that's for sure! It's not
the nerve system, it's the power which utilizes the nerve
system as its conduit, as a transmission, of that energy.
It's what we call LIFE. That life is the manifestation
of function. As long as the nerve system has that thing
called life and it can go from the mind to every tissue
cell in your body, that tissue cell is going to manifest
life. There are two things that will interrupt that - toxic
thoughts and toxic physiology. If those two things are
removed, then you will have maximum expression of life.
When you have maximum expression of life, there is minimal
chance of disease. It's as simple as that!
Rick
Burnett: Dr. Schuller, would you like to add to that?
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: Yes, I see that life is absolutely
a critical part of understanding who we are. Our souls
are integrated within our physical and mental wellbeing.
To try and separate the body, mind and spirit is something
that cannot take place. We have to look at it as a whole.
The body, mind and spirit working together. As it works
together it synergistically is rejuvenated with the power
of God from that innate ability that God gave the body to
seek wellness. As we eliminate the barriers through detoxification,
through nourishment and through positive thinking, the body
will crash through and eliminate disease and sickness and
continue to heal and create wellness.
Rick
Burnett: Dr. DiSiena, you mentioned two things that
will get in the way of our wellness, toxic thoughts and
toxic physiology. How can detoxifying our thoughts work
to detox our body?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Basically, toxic thoughts are a form
of stress and that stress interferes with the transmission
of that intelligence over the nerve system. Very simply,
I can talk to a person and recall a stressful event in their
life and at the same time measure their blood pressure.
What do you think happens to their blood pressure as they
recall a stressful event? The blood pressure would go up,
their heart rate would go up, respirations would go up.
Those are not life enhancing sequences or happenings because
your body thinks it is going through the fight or flight
response. So, as long as we remove as much of that toxic
stress as we can, the body will allow that intelligence
unencumbered to go to work. In the past we've also talked
about toxic physiology in terms of the mechanical pressure
that can be on the nerve system. That's what chiropractors
do - we remove that mechanical pressure on the nerve system
which disrupts the ability of the nerve system to transmit
that energy. We don't even know what that energy is, except
that when you have that energy we measure it by an EEG,
and when you don't have that energy, you're dead! As long
as that energy is there and can transmit, then you'll have
maximum life potential.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: I was sharing this with an MD one
time and he said if the nerve is blocked, then how is there
communication: and, he said through chemicals. So, ever
since then I've been saying you have a choice of having
a "direct telephone line" in your body, or using the "chemical
system" which is like Morse code. So, how would you like
to communicate - through a telephone line, or Morse code?
Which do you think is going to be more productive and more
efficient? So, if you want the proper communications, I
think it would be beneficial to let the nervous system do
what it is designed to do.
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Here's an adjunct to that - those
neuro chemical transmitters are actually originally stimulated
by the activity of the nerve system. Then they go to certain
areas of the body which transmits that chemical. So, even
if you take that back to its genesis, it is ultimately a
nerve system which starts the process.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: So, if the nerve system is blocked,
then the whole process is deformed.
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Yes, we mention this in the book.
We talk about the transmission to the vagus nerve. You
can have that nerve impinged upon and that vagus nerve goes
throughout the entire network of the body - it goes to every
detoxifying organ. So, imagine if someone has a pinched
nerve on the vagus nerve, every detoxifying organ for the
most part is diminished in its ability to function.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: Through physiology, you know where
that nerve is - right? It's in between which vertebrae?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Actually, it's in the upper brain
stem area. It's effected through the brain stem. It doesn't
come out of the nerve root, but it is effected in the upper
cervical region.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: So, adjusting the atlas would release
that, right?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Exactly!
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: Most people you know who have never
had chiropractic care - what percentages of those people
"have their heads on straight", in other words, how many
people's atlas is off?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Over 90%!
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: If you've never had a chiropractic
adjustment, you have a 90% chance that the vagus nerve is
pinched?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: That's correct!
Rick
Burnett: In the past we've talked about A.D.I.O. (Above,
Down, Inside, Out). Explain how ADIO leads to toxic free
physiology. This sounds like more of a Dr. DiSiena question,
so let's start with you Dr. DiSiena.
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Well, this is actually very much of
a theological question as well. When we say above, we literally
mean God. We mean that truly God is the divine healer.
That healing power comes from God and dwells within each
one of us. That indwelling power is what heals us. All
we have to do is appreciate it and not block it. If we
just get rid of the blockages, then that wonderful healing
process - I'm sure as we sit here talking there is healing
going on. I'm sure God is doing healing right now - I hurt
my thumb over the weekend, and I know it is being healed.
The inflammation and swelling in my thumb will be reduced
within 24 to 48 hours. There is nothing that I have to
do to help that process. It will just occur. So, Dr. Schuller,
why don't you finish up with the Above, Down, Inside, Out
question.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: I think what Dr. DiSiena said
is so true. There are actually two questions. If God is
so good and if He's so powerful, why am I sick? I'm a Christian,
I believe in His power, I've prayed to Him - why am I sick?
Well, there are specific reasons why you're sick. So, I
would look at what is the root cause of your illness. There's
a good chance it is physiological. We've already talked
about the fact that if you've never had a chiropractic adjustment,
you have a 90% chance of having problems. In your career
Dr. DiSiena, how many patients have you x-rayed?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Probably about 10,000.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: Of those 10,000 who have not had
chiropractic care in the past - how many have had their
atlas on straight?
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: Less than 5%.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: So, if you've never had chiropractic
care, those are the odds of your atlas being on straight.
And, if your atlas is not straight, you have a blockage
that prevents the healing power in your body that God has
created. If you get chiropractically adjusted, that power
will be released and will begin healing your body. It will
increase your immune system of up to 200%. That immune
system will then go and start doing what it is intended
to do. Our immune system fights cancer cells. Our immune
system fights bacteria. Our immune system fights viruses.
Our immune system fights everything that I not supposed
to be within the body. So, if you eliminate the blockages
and allow the innate power that God created to work, you
will begin the process of wellness. That's just thing you
can do. There's also the entire process of detoxification
which we go through in the book.
Dr.
Douglas DiSiena: So, what you're saying is that God
is not out there trying to "get" somebody. Most of the
time, we're doing stuff to ourselves, to harm ourselves.
Dr.
Robert A. Schuller: Yes. God is always in the process
of creating health, wellness and life. He is a God of goodness,
health and life! The opposite is death. God is not about
death, God is not about pain, God is not about bad things
- those things do happen. The rain falls on the just and
the unjust alike. But, when God allows those negative things
to take place in your life, He takes those things and turns
them into good, so that He creates a better world.
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